Major problem with indivision mk3

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Don't Panic. Please wash hands.

    since I bought the indivision mk3 last march Im having problems ...

    first problem is it's popping out constantly ... since march it popped out almost every month once. I re-seatted it by messing round at least 1 hour everytime until I got picture.


    last time I tried almost for 2 hours of disconnecting and reseating. I cant get a proper picture.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/FC7kF2xJ5Og >> check the video.

    even if it's seating strongly I cant get a proper picture

    https://youtube.com/shorts/wofR6xB_fYc >> check the video.

    I feel like there is a connection problem with the connector. ...last time just before popping out, I tried indivision software. while the card is working and has a picture the program said it cannot find indivision aga . I'm very very disappointed with the card. I was expecting a proper solution but no luck. full of problems. I could never get the hdmi audio working since day 1. even if it's turned on from the software. never got sound out of hdmi


    my amiga is working flawlessly except this indivision. it's latest re-amiga version with everything new.. everything clean.

    also another problem is since day 1 I never got the indivision applying settings out of workbench ... for example when I start amiga the indivision overlay is in the left top corner but I set it to left bottom corner from software.. out of workbench it's always defaulting to original position.


    any comments about my problems ? I dont really care about hdmi audio but I need to solve this no picture problem. Im sure there is a way to solve this in a technical perspective.... please let me know.

    UPDATE EDIT : after doing reseating almost 100 times .... I got a progress... not it's like this..I suspect the daugter board connected to keyboard chip is the source of the problem but ... I dont know tech stuff. just guessing.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/j5U1qXPgurg >> check the video

    For a first test i'd disconnect any extra stuff ... ie the accelerator and that CD-Rom. It might be a power related problem afterall.

    Quote from merty

    I'm very very disappointed with the card. I was expecting a proper solution but no luck.

    Now that's a great start - you're presenting a re-Amiga, soldered with some mediocre skills, shown in pictures without proper lighting, despite the manual clearly stating that you should have enough light on your place that you work on the inside of your Amiga, and you blame the product (us!) for not even reading and understanding the manual?


    Please take a step back. Check one thing at a time.

    Quote from merty

    also another problem is since day 1 I never got the indivision applying settings out of workbench ... for example when I start amiga the indivision overlay is in the left top corner but I set it to left bottom corner from software.. out of workbench it's always defaulting to original position.

    You need to save the config in order to survive a reboot. Further, some settings are "per screen mode", though I'd have to double-check if the OSD setting is global or not.


    However, we should really take things one step at a time:


    1. clean up the soldering around the Lisa chip. Have an expert do that. The person who has soldered this thing didnt exactly do a "clean" job.


    2. remove all expansions, like Tobias wrote: Accelerator, external disk drives, CD drive, especially lighting (that blue-ish colouring may be from some inside-case-lighting that I've seen before).


    3. make sure to have the shield installed. At least the lower shield should be there, and the board screws must be tightened, otherwise the shield does not have full GND contact on all board edges and D-Sub bolts.


    4. Make sure that your power supply is suitable for an expanded Amiga. You might want to read this article to find out if you have been tricked into buying a known-bad power supply.


    In addition, please do improve your lighting. The pictures are a fine example of particularly bad lighting, and the result is unfocused pictures that contain little to no information (apart from the blobs of solder at the side of the Lisa chip, where they don't belong).


    We're here to help with our products. However, we do assume that the target computer is a Commodore/Amiga Tech 1200. You're already deviating from this by using a self-made board that did not pass any quality control. You have to understand that you're creating a complex system, and this gets more complex with every part you're adding. The first thing you should do when resolving an issue it to reduce complexity.


    Jens

    Hello Jens & Tobias;


    First of all thanx for fast reply. I want to clarify this I dont blame you for anything. I was just trying to explain my situation. I know it's a great piece of hardware and I was trying to tell you I did what I can do from myside and trying get more opinion from you to solve it. As you know the hardware deepinside...


    my 1200 was sitting a closet for a looong loong time and board was rev 1b. it was in a very bad-shape so I decided to go ReAmiga path. I didnt do it myself. whole thing is done by a pro guy here who is well known for doing re-amiga conversions. there is no blob of solders anywhere :) my house is full lightened from ground so you're a right photos are bad ...today I'll ring light from the office and get you proper photos.


    This morning I removed cd drive and TF1260 ..result was the same but I also suspect about the PSU. I'll get a new one.

    I found this. [commercial link to known-bad PSU removed] what do you think about this one ? will it be powerful enough to carry all the load ?

    I'm sorry about my attitude if I gave you an impression of blaming you. I'm definitely not.

    thanks again ... I'll get this post updated.

    Edited once, last by Jens: Commercial link removed - I don't want to deal with the implications of linking to known-bad products. ().

    Quote from merty

    done by a pro guy

    That's debatable.


    The socket used on Indivision AGA has a special shape for the contacts - it's custom-made for us. If the unit is clicked on the chip, it will hold the weight of the motherboard (unless you tilt it off). If you still have your 1b board, just try pushing it on that Lisa chip.

    Quote from merty

    I found this. [commercial link to known-bad PSU removed] what do you think about this one ? will it be powerful enough to carry all the load ?

    The A-Power PSU is known-bad. I have warned against using that for years, and I have stopped working with Amigastore years ago because of this product. Technical details are outlined in our PSU FAQ. The short version is: It's dangerous for any expanded Amiga. Just last week we've had an extremely expensive ACA500plus repair that would not have been defective at all if the power supply wouldn't be over-powered on the negative 12V rail.


    On the other hand, it's under-powered in terms of regulation on the 5V rail. You will always have under-voltage with any MeanWell-based PSU (like Elektroware, Airdrive, Keelog and all that crap that you can get on eBay and Amazon - all near-legal in terms of safety, but not covered by a product liability insurance, as they wouldn't pass a tech review (or maybe they find an insurance that just charges a high premium, and that explains their high price for a low-quality product? Who knows..).


    Supplying an expanded Amiga is an art of it's own. I've made a seminar about that many years ago, so the details have been public all that time. However, there is still no second PSU on the market that complies with all Commodore specifications. The only PSU I can recommend is the CA-PSU.


    If you have a multimeter with sufficient precision, you can measure voltages under load - measure inside the Amiga.


    If you believe that the CIA adapter is a problem, you can leave that off for now. The flicker fixer works without it, just doesn't have live config capability then. Audio will work if you save the config with HDMI Audio enabled. It is switched off by default, as some DVI monitors don't like audio and just display a garbled picture if Audio is in the signals.


    Jens

    Hello Jens again...

    out of the blue I got into a situaiton that I must move my music studio so I couldnt find a time to mess around with my amiga. it will take my some time.

    meanwhile ... I'm thinking of getting your CA-PSU. do you think it will carry all the load by an expanded amiga like mine..

    my 1200 is

    internal dvdrom + TF1260+external gotek+indivision


    thanx

    Quote from merty

    meanwhile ... I'm thinking of getting your CA-PSU. do you think it will carry all the load by an expanded amiga like mine..

    my 1200 is

    internal dvdrom + TF1260+external gotek+indivision

    easily, yes.


    Jens