Flickerfixer/Scandoubler Image Quality?

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  • Hi,


    I'm thinking of potentially acquiring this product, but looking for specific "real-life" experiences from Flickerfixer/Scandoubler users to get an idea of picture quality & improvements from real-life usage. If possible some before/after pictures would be nice, I know I know, I am asking for the world :)


    Thanks!

  • You're asking for a picture of a monitor, which will then be displayed on yet another monitor. How many lossy paths can your brain interpolate between :-)?


    Next question would be what you're looking for: A high-res workbench, or a colourful game (and if so, is there a specific game you're looking for?).


    As for "improvements", the major improvement of a flicker fixer is that you don't have any interlace-flicker any more. Since we've introduced frame rate conversion in 2008, the next thing is to keep image movements tearing-free, which is also hard to take pictures of.


    Static picture quality is best described with "like an emulator", which is as sharp as today's flat screens can be. On top of that, our flickerfixers sport a scaler that preserves the "retro-appearance" of the source picture.


    Jens

  • Thank you again, Jens — is there an installation guide somewhere that shows how to install this board? Which cables go where, etc? Just want to make sure I’m able to add this to my machine, since I’m an Amiga newbie.

  • This might not be what you're asking, but the digital output quality is what you would expect (absolutely flawless). A bit of a learning curve to achieve perfection, but you'll get there.


    I use mine with a 17" Trinitron CRT monitor, and the analog image is the best I've perceived from any Amiga scandoubler - even better than the Picasso IV, which is also very good. It's just a flawless, dream-like experience. (Most Amiga scandoublers disappointed in this regard, especially noticeable as soft/slightly blurry text).


    This pertains to the MK3 btw.

  • Can someone clarify a bit regarding quality? (I didn't want to create a separate thread on the same topic)


    How does the MK3 compare to other solutions? Specifically:

    • A1200 connected via SCART/OSSC is okay but a bit blurry (and flickers at interlaced resolutions).
    • A500 with RGBToHDMI has perfect "digital quality" picture, not blurry at all (but it's not a A1200)

    Will MK3 give me the same picture quality as A500 with RGBToHDMI (but in an Amiga 1200)?


    Edit: I'm specifically interested in quality of HDMI connected to a modern flat screen monitor. Not CRT. Thanks.

  • Both systems (RGB2HDMI and MK3) will get the digital Signals direct from the Chip (Denise or Paula) and convert them to the specifiv mode. So I will say: Yes, the MK3 will give you the same picture Quality and more. Because, if I remember right, RGB2HDMI can only convert the standard resulutions. With the MK3 you can use some High Resulutions an the A1200. Also you get Audio over HDMI.

  • ...and on top of that, you get auto resolution modes and V-Sync, which eliminates tearing and reduces lag to a level where it's close to impossible to measure.


    Jens

  • You won’t notice if you don’t have them side by side, but there is definitely a difference.

    That actually depends on many factors, such as the type of 1084 (there have been different Philips chassis that Commodore used), and of course the contrast/brightness setting that you had chosen back then. Many gfx artists back then already complained that black isn't really black on a CRT and reduced brightness in order to get closer to a real black. To have a brighter white, they increased contrast, and once you've found that setting, you never touched it again (unless you want to be yelled at when the gfx artist comes for the next visit...).


    Comparing those settings to an LCD on Indivision, the difference is negligible. It gets even better if you switch on scanline emulation on Indivision.


    Jens